Episode 20: Cosmic Perspective: Captain Ron on Maintaining Balance in Ufology

Oct 4, 2024

Captain Ron shares his insights on maintaining a balanced viewpoint regarding UFOs and alien encounters. He explores historical examples of how past scientific beliefs have been overturned, highlighting the importance of remaining open-minded yet critical. Captain Ron emphasizes the evolving nature of knowledge and the potential for future paradigm shifts in our understanding of extraterrestrial phenomena. This episode encourages a thoughtful, nuanced approach to exploring unexplained aerial phenomena.

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Captain Ron (00:57):
Hey everyone, it’s Captain Ron and each week on Beyond Contact,
we’ll explore the latest news in ufology, discuss some of
the classic cases, and bring you the latest information from
the newest cases as we talk with the top experts.

(01:16):
Welcome back to another episode of Beyond Contact. I am
your host, Captain Ron, and today we’re going to be
doing something a little bit different. There’s no guests today.
I’ve just been getting a lot of questions lately regarding
the UFO alien phenomenon, and I think it’s time we
do a show about perspective, and the importance of keeping
an open mind with regard to these topics. Each of

(01:38):
these four segments will take a different approach to keeping
things in perspective. Some people will say to me, They’ll say,
I have an open mind because I think some lights
in the sky might be UFOs. Okay, But an open
mind means that you also think that they might be
something else, something more terrestrial. I think it’s important to

(01:59):
remember that, like with anything, you have to wait until
you have more knowledge and perhaps a different reference point
before making these determinations. It’s my opinion that the vast majority,
like ninety nine percent of these sightings do in fact
have a terrestrial explanation. We have all seen strange lights
in the sky. We have all seen tricks of the

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light or something we couldn’t quite immediately identify. That doesn’t
mean the only explanation is alien. I think some sightings
are actually anomalous and definitely require more scientific investigation as
well as speculation from the observers, as they very well
might be looking at something else entirely. There’s too many

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experienced observers who have witnessed such sightings, sometimes just by
us physically moving things come into focus and we realize
exactly what we’re looking at. Sometimes you look up and
wonder what the heck is that, and then suddenly these
lights in the sky that you were looking at turn
and you realize it was just a cluster of birds.

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Like when you look at a three D sign that’s
designed to spell out a name, but only when you
are standing in the correct position viewing it from the
correct angle. If you are off angle by just a
little bit, things look like a mess. But then when
you’re in a correct position and your perspective is correct,
then the science can be read clearly. Perspective is the

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important factor here. Sometimes our perspective changes because we physically move,
like in the three D sign example. Sometimes our perspective
changes because time has passed and we can look at
something from a new perspective. Well, it was scary at
age nine, may not be scary, and may even be
silly at age fifteen. Things in life that were important

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to us at twenty might not be so important to
us at forty. Grotcho Marx was hugely popular and considered
hilarious in the early twentieth century, but it doesn’t land
the same today’s audiences, who look at it from a
different perspective. Another way our perspective can change is technology
and knowledge gained from that technology. There’s this notion that

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you’ve probably heard of from the seventeen hundreds called the
invisible ship’s phenomenon. It states that when the new explorers
came from Europe to the Americas, the indigenous people didn’t
even see the ships coming because they didn’t know what
ships were, so they had no reference or perspective to
know what they were looking at, so they couldn’t even

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see the ships. That’s the perception the Europeans had based
on the reaction of the natives. It does illustrate the
point that we all operate from our own paradigm in worldview.
We know the culmination of what we have learned and
experienced and deal with on a daily basis. I think
most of us would be scared or at the very

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least startled if we saw a ladybug that was ten
inches long. That’s outside our belief system of what we
know a ladybug sh should be. That’s one way to
look at things. Another way is to think of it
as we don’t know what we don’t know. It’s hard
to think of things this way. Put yet another way,
there’s a well known quote from Arthur C. Clark that says,

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any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. That’s because
it’s more advanced and we don’t yet understand it. Let’s
imagine you could time travel back to eighteen seventy five,
keeping in mind that that is only one hundred and
fifty years ago, not ten thousand years ago, but a
mere one hundred and fifty years ago, a very short

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amount of time in the grand scheme of things, considering
modern humans have been around for about one hundred and
sixty thousand years. So you go up to the world’s
leading scientist of eighteen seventy five and show them your
cell phone and say you can talk to any human
being on the planet on this little device. Instantly, their
minds would be blown. They would probably have a very

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hard time even grasping the idea of this. They have
never even spoke on the telephone with anyone, let alone
across the globe, let alone on a screen face to face,
let alone in the palm of your hand. They have
absolutely no point of reference as to what you have.
Then you show them that you can also look up

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anything you wanted to right in the palm of your
hand on that same device. This would certainly be earth
shattering to them. Like the stories we have heard of
Native people seeing pictures of themselves for the first time,
This can actually also work in reverse. A fun YouTube
search is to watch young kids looking at a landline phone,
the old corded rotary style phones that were around even

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in the eighty They literally do not even have any
idea how to operate it, which brings me to another
notion regarding perspective. That is, we can be very close
to something and yet so very far away. It may
be just out of reate. We may in fact be
very close to hearing a message from another civilization or

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even seeing another life form, but we might be just
off in our ability to detect them. You only have
to be off by a tiny fraction and something maybe
utterly useless, like the rotary phone. If you were trapped
and only had an old rotary phone to call for help,
if you didn’t know how to use it, you’re out

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of luck. You’d be so close to being able to
make a call for help, yet unable to do so.
This reminds me of the Gold Record that we sent
out into space on the Voyager pro back in nineteen
seventy seven, which is still traveling through space, by the way,
and is about fifteen billion miles from Earth and still
sending back data. This gold disc was filled with music

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and sounds and images of Earth for another alien civilization
to find. What a fantastic idea. Of course, if anyone
from another civilization did find this, they too would have
to have a record player and know how to access
those sounds. Let’s say they’re smart enough to realize they
need a record player, or for some reason they do

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have a record player. They would then have to also
know what speed to play that record at. This tiny
distinction could give them an entirely different idea of what
we are trying to communicate. Without that specific technology used
in precisely the correct way, they wouldn’t be able to

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access it correctly. So close but yet so far away.
That’s the problem. In today’s terms. We’ve all been there.
We want to charge up our phone or another device,
and there’s a charger right there, but it turns out
it doesn’t fit our exact model. Therefore, we can’t charge
up so close but so far away, just by not
having the exact adapter to fit our device. A charger

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is useless to us. Like the SETI program the Search
for Extraterrestrial Intelligence, this is a great idea. Also, it’s
a telescope array that listens for radio frequencies from space. Awesome. However,
this too, only works if there’s another civilization using radio
signals and using the exact same radio frequency range that

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we are listening for, and it’s coming from the exact
place in space that we’re looking at. Another way to
think of this perspective is that you could literally live
right next door to a radio station. You look out
your window and there’s a giant a ton of broadcasting
all sorts of fascinating information. If you do not have
a receiver, you can’t hear it and it’s right next

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door to you. Worse than that, let’s say you do
have a receiver and it’s right there, but you’re off
by one millimeter when tuning it in, so you still
can’t dial in that station, Or maybe you don’t know
how to dial it incorrectly, like with the example of
the rotary phone. You know how to make a call,
but you don’t know how to make a call on

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that type of phone. Pondering these examples shows a how
close we might be to make in contact with another civilization,
but we may not fully see them, hear them, or
realize their presence because we don’t understand how to. You
can imagine how close we might be to understanding another
civilization’s messages, but we may just be off station by

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one millimeter. I think it’s imperative that we keep an
open mind with regard to this, as perhaps as our
technology expands, we will in fact one day be able
to see here or understand another civilization’s messages or presents.
When we come back, we’re going to talk more about
how technology and knowledge is continuously changing our perspective. You’re

(10:42):
listening to Beyond Contact with Captain Ron right here on
the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network.

(11:10):
Welcome back to Beyond Contact. Technology, knowledge and our perspective
is constantly changing and opening new avenues of discovery. Microscopic
organisms were discovered in the late seventeenth century. Before that,
the notion of tiny, little living organisms being everywhere surely
would have been thought of as crazy. It wasn’t until

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into the eighteen eighties, after the telephone was invented by
the way that we discovered the first scientific evidence that
microorganisms are even part of the normal human system. The
infrared spectrum camera was invented around nineteen ten, and it
allowed us to see into the infrared spectrum of light,
which sees beyond what our eyes can see. In nineteen

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fifty seven, French scientist Vladimir Gavro first began researching infrasound
machines that could hear well beyond that of the human ear.
There are, of course, countless examples of this idea of
how technology has allowed us to see something that has
existed the entire time, but it was just out of
reach of our perception. There are, of course, countless other

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examples of this idea of how technology has allowed us
to see something that has existed the entire time, but
it was just out of reach of our perception because
we didn’t have the ability to detect it. Throughout history,
there have been severe criticisms of anyone challenging the existing
position or norm. It’s a pattern that is repeated over

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and over and over, and it seems maddening to me
that we haven’t grown more open minded as we see
this happening continuously throughout history. This has spanned across religion
and science for as long as they have existed. To
this day, it still goes on, and often those who
challenge accepted archaeological discoveries, for example, are shunned or even

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excluded for having those ideas. In an oversimplification to illustrate
the point, it’s the notion that many ancient cultures subscribe
to a flat earth cosmography. Then we realized, of course,
that the Earth was in fact round. These ideas are
often later established and become the new norm as our

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knowledge evolves, which just shows we all need to be
much more open minded with all of these ideas. Resisting
these new ideas so vorociously seems foolish, as oftentimes these
ideas eventually become proven correct as we gain more knowledge,
often through technological advancements. I believe many of these things

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we currently view as unknowns will become apparent to us
as we gain more technology and thus more knowledge. It
feels wrong to be so dismissive of these ideas that
challenge the currently held paradigm, as perhaps it’s just a
matter of not having the right person, perspective or technological
know how don’t just dismiss something out of hand because

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it doesn’t line up with your current worldview, which will
one day most certainly be an archaic paradigm. It’s always
about relative perspective. We may very well be wrong in
our assumptions about many of these ideas and discoveries. Perhaps
the ancient crystal skulls are in fact storage devices that
hold information about the Earth or the universe, but we

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just don’t know how to access it. We may be
so close and yet so far. Like when people dismiss
the notion of an extraterrestrial civilization visiting Earth, they are
speaking from their paradigm using their current technology. They will
often say, oh, you can’t get there from here. What
they really mean to say is you can’t get there

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from here using the technology that we have today, because
that would take over ten thousand years. The nearest star
is four point two light years away. A light year
is the distance that light travels in one Earth year,
which is about six trillion miles for those keeping track,
So if we could travel near the speed of light,
it would take us about four years. With today’s current technology,

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we can travel about thirty seven thousand miles an hour,
so it would take us tens of thousands of years
to make that journey. Obviously, we could develop faster and
faster ways to traverse space, of which several are being
developed right now. We could perhaps even develop an entirely
new way to move about the universe, or perhaps even

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inter dimensionally. There’s speculation we could even fold space and
thus cover vast distances in short amounts of time, using
what some have called wormholes. As just one example, in
the fifteenth century, you can easily imagine Europeans saying exactly
the same thing about the new world of North America
that you can’t get there from here. Of course, many

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of them didn’t even believe there was a here to
come to, simply because they hadn’t had the technology to
know better. But of course, when we did discover the
new world, it would take a minimum of two to
four months, depending on the weather, to make that trip
just one way for a reference, that’s about fourteen hundred
to twenty eight hundred hours. Quite a journey. Let’s again

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imagine you could travel back to eighteen twenty five, just
two hundred years ago. This is before we had steamship
technology or even Morrise code. So travel and communication was
what we would consider today painfully slow. Then we developed
through technology better ships and even planes. Today boats can

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go from New York to London in about one hundred
and thirty five hours instead of the twenty eight hundred
hours that used to take. And I bet you two
hundred years from now that one hundred and thirty five
hour number will seem painfully slow. We now, of course,
even have planes yet to be imagined technology that they
didn’t have in eighteen twenty five, and the Concord plane

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can make the trip from New York to London in
under three hours. So something that just two hundred years
ago would take twenty eight hundred dollars now takes under
three We’re talking about one one thousandth of the time.
I can certainly imagine people in eighteen twenty five saying
there’s no way you can get there from here in
anything close to that time. It was simply impossible from

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their worldview, from their state of technology at the time.
So we have to be open minded, and we have
to remember we are using our current state of technology
as a point of reference. Many of these unknowns of
today will surely be within our scope of understanding. In
the future. In nineteen hundred, not that long ago at all,
the famed British physicist Lord Kelvin stated, now there is

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nothing new to discover in physics. What only remains is
to be measured more and more precisely. Wow, holy hubris,
What an example of us being so egotistically locked into
our own current point of reference. These these analogies are
to illustrate the point that things change. These comparisons to

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our technology or knowledge base are from just one hundred
and fifty to two hundred years ago. They also illustrate
how fast and how dramatic our views, our technology, and
our knowledge and understanding can change in a very short time.
And now we are just beginning with another new revolution,
that of artificial intelligence. Already we can see how technological

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growth is happening exponentially. One can easily imagine if another
civilization created artificial intelligence, as seems inevitable, how fast their
technology could evolve. Not only have they most likely had
a huge jump in linear time on us, but depending
on when they develop things like AI or perhaps something
even more advanced, something unknown to us, you can imagine

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how fast their technological growth would be a civilization reaching
our current level just one thousand years earlier than we have,
and you can imagine how far ahead they would be technologically,
and they, of course have had potentially nine billion more
years to develop. Keeping in mind that the accepted age
of the universe is thirteen point seven billion years old

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and the accepted age of the Earth is just four
point five billion years old, it seems very reasonable to
assume that another intelligent civilization in the universe could be
over nine billion years ahead of us in technological development.
Given what we have learned in just the last two
hundred years, you can imagine a civilization wouldn’t need to
be nine billion years ahead of us technologically, but a

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mere nine million years or even nine thousand years could
mean such a vast difference in understanding of the universe
that it would easily be incomprehensible for us from our
current perspective to even understand. When you consider what a
profoundly rapid change AI is making in our understanding of
the world in the universe, you can easily extrapolate that

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out to a civilization that’s a thought thousand or let’s
say ten thousand years ahead of us, and you can
imagine how even a slight jump on us technologically would
put them vastly ahead of us. Faced with an advanced
society with higher technology, we may not even be able
to grasp the fanciful notions that they have mastered. We

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just saw how a two hundred year advantage that we
have over those in eighteen twenty five, and how drastically
our understanding of the universe and the human experience is.
And that’s from the same species, in the same location,
on the same planet, just simply looking at the world
from a two hundred year difference in perspective. Next, we
will look at how every major advance in science shattered

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a previous belief that was certain and everyone accepted as factual.
These new discoveries were often criticized or dismissed entirely until
through technology, we are able to gain the knowledge to
prove them. You’re listening to Beyond Contact on the iHeartRadio
and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal podcast network. We are

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back on Beyond Contact. When you sit back and take
a look at it, nearly every major advance in science
shattered a previously held belief that was believed to be
a certainty and everyone accepted as factual. I’d like to
run through a series of these examples for perspective. So
going back to twenty five hundred BC, the Egyptians thought

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that the sun god Raw, carried the Sun across the
sky in the daytime and then brought it back through
a tunnel under the earth at night. This is literally comical.
Today a nine year old would laugh at this notion.
In five hundred BC, the Greeks first worked out that
the Earth wasn’t flat, going against the common belief that
it was indeed flat. Two thousand years later, in fifteen

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forty three, Nicholas Copernicus figured out that the Earth revolved
around the Sun, at a time when nobody knew that
the stars were even other suns, and he did this
using only the naked eye without any technology. Fifteen years later,
in fifteen nineteen, the Magellan Elcano expedition was the first
to provide practical proof that the Earth was actually round.

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In the year sixteen hundred, Geodorno Bruno was buried alive
at the stake and his ashes were thrown into the
Tiber River. This was for several reasons, including that he
proposed that the stars were distant suns surrounded by their
own planets what we call today exoplanets, and he raised
the possibility that these planets might foster life of their own.

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Bruno was tried for heresy by the Roman Inquisition on
charges of denial of several core Catholic doctrines. He also
believed in pantheism, meaning he regarded the universe as a
manifestation of God, and he believed in reincarnation of the soul.
It was only after his death that he gained considerable fame,

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particularly by nineteenth and twentieth century commentators, who regarded him
as a martyr for science. His case is still considered
a landmark in the history of free thought and the
emerging sciences. In sixteen ten, Galileo pretty much confirmed Comperticus’s
belief that the Earth went around the Sun. At that time,
the Catholic Church classified it as heresy and warned him

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to abandon it. It is said that he luckily was
only spared torture and death like Bruno faced, because his
powerful friends intervened on his behalf. Nearly four hundred years later,
in nineteen eighty nine, they even launched a space probe
with his name on it. In the eighteen sixties and seventies,
when famed scientist Louis Pastor presented his findings on fermentation

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in the role of microorganisms, some scientists and medical professionals
were very skeptical of the germ theory because it challenged
the prevailing miasma theory, which held the diseases were caused
by bad error or vapors. This theory was widely accepted
and ingrained in medical practices of the time, so Pastor’s
ideas were met with much resistance from those who were

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invested in the traditional theories. By the late nineteenth century,
Pastor was proven to be correct and eventually revolutionized medicine
and microbiology. Another example, in eighteen sixty five, James Clark
Maxwell’s groundbreaking equations introduced a unified theory of electricity and magnetism.
They were initially met with resistance, as well as experimental

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evidence and technological advances in the late nineteenth and early
twentieth centuries validated Maxwell’s theories. The initial criticism finally diminished,
and by the early twentieth century his work has become
widely accepted and recognized as a cornerstone of classical electromagnetism. Then,
in nineteen twenty three. Again, we’re only talking about one
hundred years ago. Edwin Hubbell and other astronomers all thought

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that our Milky Way galaxy was the entire universe. But
then at the Mount Wilson Observatory in California, they discovered
the first galaxy beyond our own. Up until then, the
entire world believed that the entirety of the universe was
just what we now consider our one small, little Milky
Way galaxy. In fact, today we believe that there are

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up to two hundred trillion galaxies. It’s hard to believe
that just one hundred years ago we thought there was
one our own that was the whole universe, and today
we know that we are one in perhaps two hundred trillion.
Incredible to think we were again wrong by so much,
and that was just one hundred years ago. But thanks

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again to technology, we now know otherwise. The other galaxies
were always there, but we didn’t know how to see them.
In nineteen thirty, Alfred Wagner proposed the Earth’s continents moved
very slowly over millions of years, and move a long way.
Between nineteen twelve and nineteen twenty nine, he published a
stream of fossil and rock evidence to support this theory.

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He died in nineteen thirty, again less than one hundred
years ago. His theory of continental drift was rejected by
most scientists during his lifetime. It was only in the
nineteen sixties that continental drift finally became part of mainstream science.
In nineteen sixty four, Peter Higgs of Higgs Boson fame
and his team first proposed the Higgs Boson particles existence.

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At the time, the standard model of particle physics had
not yet even been conceived. It took nearly fifty years
later and the creation of the Large Hadron Collider to
finally prove his theory. He was one of the lucky ones,
as he was alive and able to see his theory
proven true, and he was validated during his lifetime. In
nineteen ninety two, doctor Alexander Wolscand discovered the first exoplanet,

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meaning a planet around another star outside our Solar system.
Now we are talking about just thirty five years ago.
This widely held consensus belief at the time was that
there were no planets around any stars period. Thanks to
technology today, we now believe one in five stars has planets.
Around them. Again, we were so far off of what

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we now know to be reality. As I mentioned before,
our galaxy alone is known to have between one hundred
and two hundred billion planets, with approximately sixty billion of
those planets in what they’re calling the habitable zone that
could potentially harbor life. Again, that’s using our paradigm for
our type of life. So this could in fact one

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day be an even bigger number as well, And it
could be even bigger yet if you start to think
about the existence of other dimensions or realms. An important
note here is the whole time when science was considering
other life in the universe, it was with the understanding
that there were no other planets in the universe. In
twenty seventeen, astronomer Robert Work, working in Hawaii, detected a

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strange object traveling through our solar system. This turned out
to be the first known interstellar object in our galaxy
and was named a Muamua Avi Lobe. The head of
astronomy at Harvard brought this name to prominence in twenty
twenty one when he speculated that this could in fact
be a craft from outside our Solar System. In twenty
twenty a team of researchers led by Jane Graves from

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Cardiff University in the UK announced the discovery of a
significant source of phosphorin, which is a biosignature gas that’s
closely related to life on Earth in the clouds above Venus.
These scientists were shamed for claiming signs of life on Venus,
but now they’re back with even more evidence and this
is now being considered today. There are countless examples of

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scientists who were discredited and later, often after their death,
proven to be correct. These examples also illustrate how far
off our accepted beliefs were. I mean by factors of millions,
sometimes trillions. It’s astonishing how off we were. Perhaps there
are in fact different dimensions, but we don’t know how

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to see them because we don’t have the technological know
how yet to do so. Perhaps other civilizations are reaching
out to us, but we don’t have the technological know
how on how to hear and decipher these messages. Given
a little time in technology, our belief system can easily
be turned on its head. As we’ve seen. The point
of all these examples is we may not understand what

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is happening with all this phenomena in and around the
UFO field. But that doesn’t mean it’s not real. It
may just mean we don’t have the technology or the
knowledge to fully understand them yet. And maybe we are
off by one millimeters somewhere from receiving the messages from
across the universe. We are just now getting to the
point where we are unable to tell if someone is

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AI or a real human being. If we did come
upon an extraterrestrial form of AI, and we were somehow
able to communicate with it, we would have no way
of knowing if it’s in fact a form of artificial
intelligence itself or actually an alien intelligent as we would
have no point of reference or perspective on it. Again,
it seems most likely to me that this would be

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the case, as it seems to make much more sense
for our civilization to send out some form of AI
instead of a biological being to explore the universe. But
then again, of course, I’m thinking with our current way
of understanding, it is clearly ignorant to judge everything by
our current state of technology and our current paradigms. We
all have unique worldviews based on what science tells us

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and what our life experience has taught us, but I
think it’s important that we all remember that this will
change in the future, so we shouldn’t be so quick
to dismiss other possibilities, as most assuredly, our technology, our knowledge,
and our reference point will most certainly change. Better to
be open minded when these changes come than locked into
a worldview which will one day certainly be an archaic one.

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Speaking of paradigms, check out the website of Danny Sheehan’s
organization at the New Paradigm Institute dot org, as they
are doing incredible work on moving our knowledge in this
area forward. When we return, we’re going to take a
look at the latest technologies and how they may affect
our understanding of possible extraterrestrial communication as well as our
own human experiences. You’re listening to Beyond Contact on the

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iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal podcast network. Welcome
back to Beyond Contact. I am Captain Ron, and we’ve

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been talking about the importance of perspective and having an
open mind with regard to ET and UFO issues. We’ve
seen how technology can open up a whole new world
to us, often one that was always there, but we
just didn’t know how to perceive its presence, and we’ve
talked about how oftentimes many of these new discoveries were ridiculed,

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were dismissed out of hand, yet eventually those outlandish ideas
were often later proven true. You can see how all
this applies nicely to the notion of alien civilizations. We
have seen throughout history that mankind has been caught up
in its own hubris, when in fact it is very
often wrong in even the basic understandings of the universe

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as we now know it to be. There are other
technological developments which could have a huge profound effect on
what we know about the universe and may help in
the search of extraterrestrial life. There’s the proposed Habitable World’s Observatory,
which would be a large infrared, optical and ultraviolet space telescope.
It would be optimized to search for and image Earth

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sized habitable exoplanets in the habitable zones of their stars
where liquid water can exist. There is also the ELT
aptly named the Extremely Large Telescope in Chile’s Atacama Desert.
This telescope is slated to be operational in twenty twenty
eight and will be one hundred and thirty feet across,
making it the largest ever built. It will track down

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earthlike planets around other stars and could become the first
telescope to find evidence of life outside of our solar system.
The leap forward with the ELT can lead to a
paradigm shift in our perception of the entire universe, much
like Galileo’s telescope did four hundred years ago. Next, I’d
like to talk about us being on the verge of
yet another scientific revolution which is poised to utterly change

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the human experience as we know it. The first part
of this is the onset of artificial intelligence. Given the
digital computing is fundamentally based on mathematics, which is a
universal language that describes patterns, structures, and relationships, these systems
reflect fundamental principles that are likely to be universal. Therefore,
does stand a reason that another advanced civilization may develop

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its own form of digital artificial intelligence, and or perhaps
something even more intriguing. As we are just getting a
handle on understanding this technology, we can already see how
it could vastly improve our space exploration, and as I
mentioned earlier, it seems like a much more logical choice
to send AI out into space to explore the universe
instead of humans. AI doesn’t need breaks, does it need

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to eat, doesn’t get sick, doesn’t die, doesn’t have to
report to the wife. Nothing, It can continuously learn and
send back data to us. We are starting to see
artificial general intelligence systems emerge that possess general cognitive abilities
that are similar to human intelligence. We are already hearing
about artificial superintelligence, which is a form of AI that

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would surpass even the best human minds in every field,
including creativity, problem solving, and social intelligence. And it’s just
going to continue exponentially from there. Elon Musk is currently
building the world’s largest supercomputer called XAI. This computer will
have over one hundred thousand of these specialized Navidia superconductors

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to train and run the next version of his gronk AI.
It’s just massive. It’s being built in a facility that
has overset one hundred and eighty five thousand square feet
and is set to open in twenty twenty five. And
this is not the only one. Others are being designed
to be built right now as well. Not only will
AI greatly enhance our ability to explore the universe, but

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it will give us better technology to understand what’s happening
in our skies right here on Earth. It can help
us search for UFOs by analyzing large amounts of data
from various sources such as radar, satellite imagery, radio signals,
and even eyewitness reports. It has the ability to identify
things like planets, planes, drones, and the space station. AI

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algorithms can be trained to detect patterns or anomalies sifting
through just massive amounts of information, making it much easier
for researchers to focus only on the anomalies and the
data and investigate those further. Additionally, there are new artificial
intelligence models that can detect alien life. According to a
study published in the scientific journal Proceedings of the National

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Academy of Sciences, they say this algorithm can and distinguish
between samples of biological and non biological origin ninety percent
of the time. This method should be able to detect
alien biochemistries as well as things similar to Earth life.
It states that these results mean that we may be
able to find a life form from another planet, another biosphere,

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even if it’s very different from the life we know
here on Earth, and if we do find signs of
life elsewhere we can tell if life on Earth and
other planets derived from a common or a different origin. Obviously,
this is not necessarily intelligent life, but it will verify
confirmed life out there to mainstream science, which is a
massive step on its own. If we do discover some

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new message sent from an alien civilization, we would need
AI systems to decode and figure out the translation of
such messages. Not to mention, if we do actually have
an interaction with another intelligence, we would again need an
AI system in order to be able to communicate with them.
AI did start off a language model, after all, and

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as has been said earlier, not only would we send
AI up to Explorer space because AI travels better than
a biologic being like humans, but aliens too would most
likely be sending some sort of artificial intelligence as well.
So it is actually quite likely that the first official
alien human communication would really be AI to AI. This

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is such a new frontier that we really don’t know
where it’s headed. Neither do the top people in this field.
For example, Jeffrey Hinton, considered the godfather of AI, has
expressed concerns about the dangers and fears of artificial intelligence.
Here’s a couple quotes that he has said on the subject,
the alarm bell I’m ringing has to do with the

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existential threat of them taking control. I used to think
this was a long way off, but I now think
it’s serious and fairly close. He also wrote, it’s quite
conceivable that humanity is just a passing phase in the
evolution of intelligence. Wow. Pretty incredible. Sam Altman, the CEO
of open AI, has been quoted as saying, I prep

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for survival, including AI that attacks us. So clearly, we
really don’t know what AI will become or what it’s
capable of, but it’s important to note how the top
people in this field are clearly concerned. There is yet
another development, also by Elon Musk. They may have an
equally profound effect on the world. That is his Neurallink
company and their brain computer interfaces or BCIs. These are

(38:31):
computer chip brain implants that could potentially transform various aspects
of medicine, technology, and human enhancement in the future. These
BCIs could enable direct brain to brain communication or allow
individuals to communicate with outspoken language, creating an entirely new
form of interaction. Not to mention the speed of this communication,

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which will be much faster than anything we have now.
As you can imagine, it will continuously get faster. Just
as computers of ten years ago are unusuably slow today,
the same will happen here. More importantly, these brain computer
interfaces could allow for more seamless interaction between humans and
artificial intelligence, enabling an almost cyborg like instant integration with

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AI systems. These computer interactions could take place at speeds
ten times as fast as we communicate, and up of
what we now take to communicate with a computer system.
They are already saying that the slow part of our
interaction with AI is the time it takes for the
human being to input to the computer. Computers can already
calculate one quintillion calculations per second. The human experience as

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we know it and have known it to be is
about to go through profound changes over just the next
couple generations, and this is already happening right now. Two
people have already had a computer chip implant, and two
more are getting it imminently. Neuralink is a form of
human augmentation, but this too could potentially assist in the
search for UFOs. It could potentially enhance human perception by

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connecting our brains directly to sensors or devices that can
detect signals related to UFO sightings. This enhanced perception could
allow individuals to detect and interpret signals or phenomenon related
to UFOs that are beyond our natural senses. It could
enable direct access to an analysis of vast amounts of
data related to UFO sightings and experiences. People could analyze

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and interpret this data more efficiently, potentially leading to new
insights and discoveries about the UFO phenomenon. This technology could
potentially enhance human capabilities and allow us to perhaps gain
a better understanding of many of these different mysterious phenomenon.
AI and neurlink have a huge potential to utterly change
the human experience and the way we both understand and

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interact with our world. Perhaps these technologies will lead us
to be able to detect and even interpret messages from
an alien civilization. Once again, it’s possible these messages are
already coming here, we just haven’t had the technology to
hear them yet. These are just a couple examples, The
point being that I believe we should stay at the
very least open minded with regards to these topics as

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history has shown us time and time again. Eventually our
way of thinking will become an archaic, ignorant way of thinking.
Hit us up on social media with your thoughts. You
can reach me Captain Ron on Twitter and Instagram at
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minded and rational as we explore the unknown right here

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