Join Captain Ron as he discusses the reality of interdimensional UFO travel with Marc D’Antonio.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 3 (00:57):
Hey everyone, it’s Captain Ron and each week and Beyond Contact,
we’ll explore the latest news in ufology, discuss some of
the classic cases, and bring you the latest information from
the newest cases as we talked with the top experts.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Welcome to Beyond Contact. I am Captain Ron, and today
I’m going to be speaking with Mark Dantonio. Mark has
a degree in astronomy and is the MOUF on Chief
photo video Analyst. He is also an expert video analyst
on the TV show The Proof Is Out There. In addition,
Mark is the host and creator of the popular Skytour
live stream with Mark D’Antonio. Hey, Mark, how you doing, buddy?
Speaker 5 (01:36):
Thank you for having me. How are you?
Speaker 4 (01:38):
I’m terrific. I got this new show now on the
Coast to Coast am Paranormal Podcast Network. I’m very excited
about it and things are happening.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
I love it, man, I really love it. I’m so
happy for you and for Contact. And I have to say,
you know, since attending Contact, I mean you invited me
for the first time I think it was last year,
and since then, I’m telling you, all kinds of opportunities
have come a bit and us it’s really come to
be for me, probably the quintessential conference on this topic
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in the entire planet, you know.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
I think. So that’s our goal. We’re trying to you know,
this is a very mission driven thing for Gordon and I.
So we try to get the word out about this,
and I try to expose people maybe outside our community,
to people like yourself who have a very rational look
at this, you know, Mark. For me, I don’t like
how people dismiss the UFO subject out of hand without
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looking into the data. But equally frustrating for me is
when people see anything anomalous and they jump to, well,
that’s a UFO et craft and aliens are on it,
or aliens built that, or aliens did this right. You know,
you’re studying all these videos of anomalous objects. What percentage
of those that you’ve looked at do you feel you’re
able to explain away with a terrestrial explanation?
Speaker 5 (02:51):
See? Unfortunately, this is where people get, you know, jaded
by the whole arena of youuthology. Ninety nine point five
maybe even more percent are explainable as ordinary objects. In
other words, I say they’re ordinary objects captured in an
extraordinary way. Cameras see things. Your cell phone camera, you know,
thirty five millimeters single lens reflex DSLR. They all see
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things differently than your eye does. Your eye will ignore
things that it recognizes, like a bird flying swiftly through
the scene. You just ignore that because that’s every day,
that’s normal for you. But if you aren’t thinking about
anything but the subject you’re taking a photograph of, and
you go back later, that same bird could look like
a weird streak in the sky. That’s anomalous, okay, because
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the camera captured it differently than your eye does. Your
eye doesn’t have a persistence of memory of the last
image it just took. But when you look at this
thing in the sky in the camera, the camera captures
it in multiple frames or in multiple because if it’s
a time exposure, it’ll capture a a in a streak.
Your eye doesn’t do that. Your eye doesn’t do a
quote unquote time exposures in the same way, so we
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don’t get to see that. So when the ca or
capture something, it automatically stands out for us. That’s why
people think they’ve captured UFOs, and that’s why ninety nine
point nine nine nine point five zie point nine percent
of them are all explainable.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
You know, even with my naked eye, sometimes I have
looked at an object. Sometimes I’ll see something and I’ll
be like, hey, look that, God, what is that? And
then it moves a little bit, or I move a
little bit and oh, it’s just a plane. You know.
You can get easily distorted.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
That’s right. And just because nearly all things we see
and are captured are ordinary objects captured in this extraordinary
manner doesn’t mean that unidentified objects aren’t there either. It
means they’re harder to see. And this makes sense based
on the physics which I’ll be talking about in Contact
this year at a lay level, of total lay level.
In fact, my first lecture is going to be about
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that very thing, this dimensional travel possibility that opens up
when we consider the possibility that string theory is actual. Now,
mitchyo Kakko would agree with me. Bobby Low has just
stated he thinks aliens traveled interdimensionally as well. So it’s coming, guys,
it’s coming. We are going to have a revolution in physics,
and it’s already happening, and we’re going to see some
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new things and new concepts that we’ve not been used
to before. And in my lecture I’ll talk about my
first one, very first one. I’m going to be talking
about this concept of dimensional travel, how it works, and
it’s at a lay level in a way that everybody
can understand ron And what they’re going to do is
they’re going to come away saying that fills the rest
of the gap. How can they be here from so
far away? Well, now we have the answer.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
I love that idea and this idea that we’re talking
about that the vast majority of these things can be explained.
So when you have these few that you can’t explain.
Do you think it’s possible some of the stuff you’re
looking at could be craft from off planet?
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Absolutely? I’m an astronomer, That’s what I got my degree in.
I’m also the mutual UFO Networks chief photo and video analyst,
So I have a very rational take on this, you know.
And before we talked, I got a call from A
and E talking about some additional work for proof. Okay,
so clearly what’s going to happen, Ron is that people
are going to be able to get better technology in
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their hands to be able to identify these things that
currently we say are zero point five percent unexplained point
one percent. That kind of number is those don’t set
well with me. I want to know what these things are.
I need to know what these things are.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
And it only takes one mark, only one incident.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
That is correct. And that’s what I’m all about, is
trying to find that one. And I think that if
we look in the right way, with the right technology,
we’ll be able to see it.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Now.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
I’ve got ideas. Abby Loeb’s Galileo project has ideas. Other
programs have got ideas as well about how we might
see them. Currently, none of it is working, and I
think that we need to literally allow for this newer
physics understanding to come into being, and then we’ll be
able to look for things like hawking radiation properly, or
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perhaps some other radiation that might be coming from an
object that is suddenly in our four dimensional space when
it wasn’t a moment ago.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Even though you’re this hard science rational guy, you seem
to you just expressed that you feel that there’s a
possibility that something could off planet, could be visiting Earth.
What do you feel supports that position. What’s the strongest
evidence of any kind that you’ve seen makes you believe
this is possible?
Speaker 5 (07:17):
You know, we don’t have to go into modern history
round for this. Actually, that question is the one that
makes the most sense to me, because all we have
to do is look back at ancient petroglyphs on some
of the cliffs that were pecked into stone pictographs in
caves the Wandina five thousand years ago in the Kimberly
region of Northern Australia. They made these images of these
creatures called the Wagina that came from the sky, lived
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in the water and had full mastery of the water.
That is something I think is very compelling. Yes, it
could just be a myth. However, they show their wadina
with halos around their heads. Now that may sound like
nothing of importance until you look at other history elsewhere
in the world where these people in Northern Australia never
talk to these people in Europe, for instance, and the
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people in Europe show their deities with halos around their heads.
Wait a minute, what’s that? And why do Renaissance painters
show deities with halos around their heads? Why do caves
in India have pictographs with deities with halos around their heads.
Why do the Valkymanica aliens have halos around their heads
or val Comonica warriors so to speak, have halos around
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their heads. The halo is extremely important and I think
that that there lies a whole other research foray that
people should go on, because the halos can lead us
through all the possibilities on the planet of things that
people observed and then reported in their pictographs, in their
petroglyphs and their paintings and so forth.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
It is fascinating how this stuff could go back throughout
our history that Mark’s just talking about, as well as
contemporary with these new videos and things. You’re listening to
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Okay, we’re back on Beyond Contact and I’m speaking with
Mark D’Antonio. You know, as a science guy, let me
ask you this, what is the feeling about extraterrestrial life.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
In your world?
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Like when you talk to other astronomers, do they believe
in life in the universe? Where’s the question really whether
or not they’ve been here?
Speaker 5 (11:04):
A very good question. When I was getting my astronomy degree,
I talked to the director of my observatory at the time,
and I asked him, you know, I told him, I said,
I believe it’s a populated universe. Art we’re bilaterally symmetric
carbon based beings. Okay, Every life form on this planet
is symmetric in some form, whether it’s radio, Panamerus bilateral
symmetry like we are. And I said, that seems to
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be a template of life, possibly created by the way
DNA replicates. I think DNA is going to be something
that we would find elsewhere in the universe. And I said,
and so I don’t believe it’s just here. And he
looked at me over his glasses without saying a word,
and he says, are you quite finished, mister D’Antonio, And
I said yeah. He goes, okay, get back in the
observatory and leave Captain Kirk to us. Ah, oh okay.
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So fast forward to nineteen eighty eight. This was nineteen
eighty two that I was telling him this. I graduated
with my degree in eighty three. So nineteen eighty eight
comes the first confirmed exole plant I found around another star.
Now it wasn’t anything big, but it was a giant
Jupiter size planet no life could be there. However, it
was a planet. So I went in to see him.
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And I went back to the university and he was
on the phone. I could hear his voice bellowing throughout
the building because it’s an old building with wood floors.
I walked into his office and I peek around the
corner and he’s on a telephone. Remember that U shaped
scoop that you used to have to put up to
your ear. And he’s talking on the phone and he
sees me in the door, and he doesn’t even ask
why I’m there. He just covers the mouthpiece, looks at
me and says it was only one planet. And I said,
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just the beginning. Art just the beginning. And unfortunately, never
saw him again after that. But I will say this,
We found well over five thousand planets around other stars,
and there’s a fraction of those that seem like they’re habitable.
Life could exist on them as we know it. When
you talk about that to scientists today, almost all of them,
to a letter, will say, we believe there’s life elsewhere.
But the big thing for them is, but we don’t
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believe they’ve found us. What would make them find us?
I have the answer I think, and I’ve been telling
academia this for many decades. Actually we stand out like
a sore thumbing universe. Carl Sagan said it best. He said, weary,
pale blue dot, our planet, our Earth.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Right.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
That was Carl Sagan, my favorite astronomer. Carl said these things.
And when he said them, I started to think we’re
a pale blue dot. And I know that we’re not
very noticeable. And that photo of Earth from Casini near Saturn,
it’s a tiny little dot. So it is a pale
blue dot. But I have to ask the question our
fur as sun was between us and or between an
alien civilization and our Earth passing in front of that
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of our son, they would be able to characterize and
look at what’s in our atmosphere. We’re doing that now.
The Kepler space telescope did this. Transits planets pass in
front of the star and when they do, we see
a little dip in the light and so we can say, ah,
there’s a planet. We can also say now with the
James Web Space telescope, there’s a planet. But as it
passes in front of its star, we see the stars
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spectrum which shows us its composition change slightly it changes
because now the atmosphere, if the planet has any, will
pollute the star’s spectrum, subtract them from each other. And
you got yourself, what’s in the planet’s atmosphere? And guess what?
The James web Space telescope has turned up carbon dioxide, methane, hydrogen, oxygen,
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and dimethyl sulfide, possibly of late. Now you might say, well,
what the heck is that crap? You know what’s dimethyl sulfide? Well,
dimethyl sulfide is what we call here on Earth the
smell of the sea. It sounds romantic, but it’s that real, nasty,
stinkier smell when the tide is out at the ocean.
And what is that? It’s a smell created by living
things only. So that means that James web Space telescope
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may have found life. And if it found life, it’s
going to be in the form probably of microbes at first,
and none better than the ones that create dimethyl sulfide.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Well, you know you mentioned here that the populated universe,
as you said to that guy, you also wrote a
book called the Populated Universe.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
And that’s why I titled it that. Actually because of
that conversation I had with him.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
It’s so fun that’s so funny, and it’s you think
it’s the carbon since carbon based life form is that
kind of tie into that.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
It does. And I’ll tell you why. When you look
at the abundances of elements in the universe, you know
something we’ve studied for many years in astronomy. You find
that hydrogen is the most prevalent one. Next you have helium. Okay,
now I think periodic table. You got hydrogen and helium, Okay, lysium,
beryllium blah blah blah blah. But you then get oxygen,
and oxygen’s actually the third most abundant element in the
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whole universe. Wow, what’s the fourth carbon? Carbon is a
very special little element. That little special element can bond
with more things in that periodic table than any other element.
It’s flexible, it makes and breaks bonds with ease and
with proper chemical stimulation or thermal stimulation. So clearly, carbon
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is the granddaddy of all elements. And that means that
if you have fourth most abundant element in universe as carbon,
it stands the reason that carbon based life is probably
the dominant life form in the universe. Why, because that’s
what we are, and we’re made of the most dominant
element in the universe. Now, people say, well, what about
silicon based life. Well, if you think of your periodic table,
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you have carbon, then underneath it you have silicon, and
the elements just underneath each other in that column in
the periodic table are the ones that are most like
each other. So silicon is the next one down. Silicon
makes very robust bonds. It doesn’t like to make him
break bonds the same way carbon does. Carbon into it.
Every day you’re making and breaking thousands of bonds of
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carbon in your body right now, Ryan, I know you
mean to, but it’s okay, it’s okay, it’s meant to happen.
But silicon, it does. When it makes a bond, it
wants to hold on to it. Like when you go
to the beach, did you know you’re walking on mostly gas?
Of course no, how would you know that because sand
is silicon dioxide. That’s a silicon atom with two oxygens.
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So by adam count, you’re walking on most gas. Now,
the ouctiongen that’ms a little smaller than the silicon. So
the silicon dominates, right, But you can use that. You
can say, hey, you know you’re walking to mostly gas
here on the beach, so anyway, carbon being fourth most
abundant universe, it stands to reason that we would have
carbon based life in universe to meet.
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Speaker 4 (19:01):
Okay, you’re back with Captain Ron on Beyond Contact. I’m
talking to Mark D’Antonio here. Mark, there’s been a lot
of new discoveries that continue to turn our belief systems
upside down. Only one hundred years or so ago, using
the best telescopes we had, we had the belief that
our galaxy was the entirety of the universe because we
didn’t know any better until we built a bigger telescope
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to see beyond. And then, as you mentioned earlier, we
didn’t think there were any other exo planets that that
was unique to our galaxy. Now we found over five thousand,
as you mentioned, and I think the current belief is
that there’s probably one for every star out there. Given
this drastic change in belief over a relatively short period
of time, do you think that in the near future
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we could discover new technologies that would somehow change our
belief about interstellar travel because everybody now says, oh, it’s
too far. It would take twelve thousand years to get
to the nearest star. But couldn’t a new technology come
in and change that absolutely?
Speaker 5 (20:00):
And if you think about it, when the right brothers
at Kitty Hawk took the right glider and sailed for
a few seconds, you know that they both imagined much
faster flight, more advanced aircraft that would actually take them
further higher. But it wasn’t there yet. Took sixty four years.
But in that sixty four years since then, we ended
up getting to the Moon. Now that’s pretty amazing, right,
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So it takes time for progress to occur. As we
move forward, and as our physics gets better and as
we refine our belief systems and what we’re considering within physics,
we might want to consider that there’s other possibilities for travel.
In nineteen ninety four, Miguelacubia came up with a concept
called the Alkubie drive, which was a concept where you
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basically fold space and you need an awful lot of
energy to do it. And if you could fold space
and do this continuously over a number of times, you
could actually go vast distances. Now, warp drive is that
the work? Yes, that’s correct. Its characterized as something called
the quote unquote warp drive. That’s right. In reality, that
warp drive would require a lot of energy. But here’s
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the benefit. You could go to the nearest star system
called Alpha Centauri in as little as five days with
this process. And you might say, well, that’s pretty good.
How long would it take us today? Well, with our
chemical rockets and so forth, and any of the propulsion
concepts we have today, it would still take us over
ten thousand years to get there. Space is big. So
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this is what’s been keeping people in academia and otherwise
thinking we’re never going to be able to go that far.
How are we going to get out there? We’re going
to be lonely forever. Well, not necessarily, because even though
the Alcubier drive is not perfect, it could stand to
be something that maybe we’ll take a bottle and outfit
it with an Alcuba drive and have it go to
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Alpha Centaurian back just to see how it works. Okay,
we’re about one hundred years from that. However, the energy
requirement is stupendous. It’s colossal, and we wouldn’t be able
to get that energy easily, even though it’s been reworked
and the energy has been dropped down by many, many
factors of ten. Even so, there’s got to be something else,
and that something else seems to be something that lives
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in another world called string theory. This is something that
has been talked about in the past. My good friend
Bob Schroeder I wrote a book called Solving the UFO Enigma.
I’ve been with Bob many times talk to him, and
he is an aeronautical engineer, and I believe looking through
his book it’s written for people who understand physics. It’s
not written for the lay person, unfortunately, but some of
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it is, but not when he gets to the equations.
The bottom line is this process, which I really believe
in and has been very validated by other physics people
out there in the arena of academia, says that basically
we live in four dimensions, xy, X, Y, and Z
all moving through time. There’s four You have four fingers
sticking out there. You go, now you stick out your
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thumb and pull in your four fingers like you’re hitchhiking. Well,
that thumb now represents the fifth man, and you can’t
see the four fingers from there because those four fingers
are a different dimension there the XYZ moveing through times
where we live every day. But when you pull out,
when you pull out the fifth dimension and go in there,
you’re in a different location, invisible to the four dimensions.
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When you’re in the four dimensions, you can see something
that is otherwise in the four dimensions as well. But
if it transitions to the fifth dimension right before your eyes,
it will look like it’s simply winking out of sight.
It could be a car, and if it goes into
the fifth dimension, it will simply vanish and you go,
what was that? You’ll step on in not there? But
why did it do this? This transition has to do
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with these particular particles that the spaceship or UFO if
you want to call it, that a UAP could generate,
and these particles surrounding this object live in this fifth
dimension I’ve been talking about, and these particles are called
Coluza Kline gravitons. But if you can surround your ship
with these gravitons, your ship can get pulled into this
fifth dimension, and it’s a very warped dimension. And as
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soon as you go in, as soon as you go in,
the dimensions starts to warp, and the farther in you go,
the smaller the universe becomes around you. So let’s say
you go in a tiny little bit and you move
a foot. Okay, when you come out, that foot translates
to maybe ten feet, just to say, but if you
go in really far into that fifth dimension and move
that same foot, you’re covering a lot more ground because
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the universe is compressed around you. When you come back out,
you’ve moved the light year effectively. That’s a simplistic way though,
of looking at how this really works. So here on
the planet, they don’t have engines. On the UFOs don’t
have engines, they don’t need them. All they need to
do is shift out and shift back in to the
four dimensions. They shift out to the fifth and shift
back into our fourth dimension or four dimensions, So it’s
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like they pop out and pop in. We look at
them moving across the sky really really rapidly and making
ninety degree turns. How can they do that? Well? On
the shift, they’re feeling nothing because they’re not actually moving.
They’re just shifting to the fifth dimension. And then they
pick the entry point that’s slightly a little farther ahead
of where they just were. That’s how you have to
travel if you don’t have an engine. They just go
up pink, pink, pink, pink, pink, and they pop out
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on a zigzag, you know. They zig up into the
fifth dimension and zag down into the four and they
do that all over and over and over again to
move across the sky. Sounds complicated, But if you had
an advanced computer system on board metering the amount of
these particles you’re sending out, well, then it’s not such
a big deal. In fact, it’s automated. It’s done all
by itself. This is why they could be under the ocean.
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They could be deep in the ocean and not feel
the effects of the pressure. Why because they’re neither here
nor there. They’re being the fifth dimension. They’re in and out,
they’re in between all the time. They’re rapidly oscillating back
and forth. This oscillation is how they elude our detection.
This oscillation is how they can handle the deep pressures.
This oscillation going into the fifth dimension and popping into
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the fourth dimensions slightly ahead of where they were, or
in a ninety degree angle to where they were, is
how they avoid g forces. There’s no forces on them whatsoever.
They’re just sitting in their ship going why are we
gonna be there.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
And on a article accelerator? Is that what causes this?
Speaker 5 (26:02):
Yeah, you know, that’s that’s oppression thing to say, Captain Ron,
because when you look at a UFO in general, we
look at them as circles. Use these spherical round UFOs.
You’ve seen round the spherical ones. We’ve seen triangular ones.
In a triangular one, you can still slam a circle
in there. And I think that UFOs are actually particle accelerators,
and the particle accelerator powered by a fusion reactor is
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all you need to generate these fifth dimensional particles and
start utilizing this technology. Keep this in mind moving forward,
Think about the fact that Lawrence Livermore is working on fusion.
They’ve made tremendous breakthroughs with fusion, so far sirn that
the Large Hadron Collider has added a detector called Atlas
to its lineup. What’s Atlas looking for coaluza, kleine gravitons. Hmm,
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I wonder why, because they’re very interesting, Captain Ron, very interesting.
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We are back on Beyond Contact with Captain Ron. I’m
talking with Mark D’Antonio. You know I wanted to bring
up this with you real quick. AVI Lobe a few
years ago had the moa moa interstellar possibly an interstellar
in stellar object that shaped like a pancake that came through.
What are your thoughts about that.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
I’m so glad you said it shaped like a pancake,
because many people thought it was this long, thin spindle thing.
It was actually a pancake. And that’s why he thought
it might be a defunct solar sale, because that’s what
it would look like, you know, coming through the solar system.
These are you know, extraterrestrial interlopers. They are asteroids from
other solar systems. This one came in not within the
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plane of our solar system, but very very high, and
then came through and whipped on through. When it does that,
you expect a predictable path on the way out. You
expect to be able to predict exactly where it’s going
to go because you know mass, it has a certain mass,
Gravity affects it a certain way. We know the force
between gravity two objects, gmm over our square, all those things,
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we know the values. So why did Omua mua not
behave as expected? That’s the question. We don’t know all
Avi Lobe was saying, which got him so much flak.
I’ve talked to Abi, I’ve worked with him a few
times on different productions. All he said was we can’t
discount the possibility that this may have been alien technology.
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We can’t discount the possibility. And he’s absolutely right. Is
it likely that it was an asteroid? There’s a greater
than fifty percent chance it was a normal asteroid? Yes,
maybe greater than eighty percent. However, isn’t a twenty percent
or even a ten percent possibility show you that with
all the potential asteroids, that we might find that there
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is something out there that we don’t understand.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
You know, he’s the one. I think I get that
phrasing from where he says that the data suggests that
it warrants more scientific investigation, and that just with me.
I mean, that’s that’s the bottom line.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
Is that not all it is. It’s not That’s all
we’re asking is that we just have to let the
data speak, and it just means we have to get
more data. So Omuama came and went very very quickly,
extremely fast. But what happened on the way out was
it behaved differently. It behaved badly for an asteroid just
winging its way through our solar system. It should have
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gone in a particular path, an exact path as it
came through our solar system. It did not. It followed
a different path on the way out, which we can’t explain.
That was the I think the the premise of the
book Extraterrestrial Biabi when he wrote that book about that
it truly is an extraterrestrial asteroid. We know that for
a fact. So clearly we know that that the asteroid
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came from some location out in interstellar space. Its coloration
and its surface looked like a deep red, which is
exactly what you’d get when you actually expose a surface
for billions upon billion of years to ultra violet light
from stars and the passages of very very very highly
luminous and radioactive radio active objects like stars that are
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emanating this radiation ultraviolet radiation, so the baked soils on
the surface would end up turning this deep red ochre color.
And that’s what this looked like. So clearly, this object
was out there for many, many billions of years. And
I think that it’s very likely, very possible that Abby’s
actually on the right track. I side with him, and
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not just because he’s the astrophysics guy at Harvard. I
side with him because the science is valid to me.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
That’s the thing. Let’s not discount the science. That’s what
he’s trying to Yeattch you too, and I love it. Hey,
you know you created this incredible technological achievement of having
a network of telescopes that you can control right there
from your office and explain to people different aspects of
the universe. So let me ask you this. We now
have artificial intelligence which seems to be infiltrating just about
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every aspect of our lives, and they are talking about
using AI to decipher objects in our skies like an airplane,
a satellite, an asteroid, whatever. Do you feel that this
is a useful tool? And have you already gone down
this path? Are you using this?
Speaker 5 (32:14):
I use AI for a number of things, but not
for controlling the telescope. At this point, I might actually
moving forward. We got a telescope in the Sonoran Desert,
as you know, called skytur Livestream. That’s the sky too,
a Sonora and the Modlin Haine Observatory. And we’re putting
a second one in. We broke ground in Benson, Arizona.
We’re putting another one in that’s like almost two hundred
miles away, and then we have a third one going
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in right here. Actually about one hundred feet that way
from in front of my house here, and it’s going
to be a solar observatory. We’re going to observe the sun,
which is a very good thing to do right now,
And so I run those remotely. Yes, And using AI
to run the solar observatory is probably a very smart
idea because the AI would be able to look at
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the Sun’s disc and decide what is something worthy of mention,
and it would put out alerts. And that’s kind of
where I want to go with that. If there’s a
large flare, we’d catch it. If there’s a large prominence
of the ballooning off the Sun, we’d catch it. We
know when it was occurring. And because they all happened
so slowly, plenty of other observatories would be able to
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be brought online to look at it. You have the
Big Bear Observatory in California. That’s all they do is
look at the Sun, so they’ll certainly see it. This
would be something that the general public can just get
in and see and sign up for sign up for alerts.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
But I’m wondering more about you about artificial intelligized excuse me,
artificial intelligence taking your job of deciphering these videos and
determining what something is. Could it look at the sky
and say, Lance airpoint, what do you think of that?
Speaker 5 (33:49):
Yeah, I think that that’s also a possibility. But I
also know that AI has already made some really bad mistakes.
Now it can be refined. And I’ve seen so many
images that AI called UFOs that were not UFOs. There
were birds in fact, in particular, but they were worked
on by the AI, and the AI saw angular pieces
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and deciphered these to be ship panels. And the next
thing you know, you’ve got an image. It looks like
it’s got rivets in it and stuff like that. And boy,
that looks just like a UFO. But the original photo
is a big frame, and the original photo has this
little tiny dot on it that’s fuzzy. You enlarge it
and you’re going to get a larger fuzzy dot.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
Wean’t this correct? Over time, as AI gets stronger and learns,
want it be better at deciphering those type things.
Speaker 5 (34:36):
Yes and no, maybe, But here’s the problem we face.
Our resolution of our cameras is only a certain amount.
The resolution of your iPhones camera, even if it’s a
four K video, you’re shooting right. Even with that, you
have a limitation. You zoom in too far and you’re
gonna get pictulization, you’re gonna get stretched out imagery. If
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it’s a time exposure, you don’t even see the object
as it’s supposed to be. AI could say, oh, I
can kind of reconstruct what the object should be based
on what I see as a stretch and knowing the exposure,
I can figure out what that thing should be. Yes,
it does that. You can do that, Okay, I’ve used
technologies like that, but the problem is it can’t make
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the final decision because of the fact that if you
have a photo that has a certain amount of detail
in it, no amount of any AI manipulation is going
to add detail that was there in the original photo.
What you have in the original photo is all you got.
If you’re in large a fuzzy elongated dot. Okay, it’s
a larger fuzzy elongated dot. You don’t know what that is.
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You can’t tell. And AI is not going to be
able to share that know that unless it has more
data and more resolution, and you can’t invent resolution. And
that’s the problem with AI today. People are using it
to look at UFO photos and make the decision. Oh
look at UFO. No, that’s a bird, but the AI
made it into this UFO. You see, you’ve got this
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insidious thing going on with AI. It’s starting to make
things that are fuzzy dots into actual objects.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
H technology. Well, thank you, Mark, I really appreciate all
this stuff is fascinating to me. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
Thanks man.
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